{"id":1709,"date":"2016-05-06T23:07:38","date_gmt":"2016-05-07T09:07:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.familjenjonsson.org\/blog\/?p=1709"},"modified":"2017-02-25T18:34:40","modified_gmt":"2017-02-26T04:34:40","slug":"microsquirting-the-nc30-part-23-we-have-ignition","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.familjenjonsson.org\/blog\/2016\/05\/06\/microsquirting-the-nc30-part-23-we-have-ignition\/","title":{"rendered":"Microsquirting the NC30, part #23: We have ignition"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>With the intake rubber fitment problem overcome, I could finally mount the entire throttle body assembly onto the bike. This was a moment long coming.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1712\" style=\"width: 410px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.familjenjonsson.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/MG_8137.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-1712\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1712\" class=\"size-medium-size wp-image-1712\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.familjenjonsson.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/MG_8137-400x600.jpg\" alt=\"The throttle body assembly, without airbox and fuel rail, test fitted onto the engine.  Thankfully everything fit perfectly.\" width=\"400\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.familjenjonsson.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/MG_8137-400x600.jpg 400w, https:\/\/blog.familjenjonsson.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/MG_8137-100x150.jpg 100w, https:\/\/blog.familjenjonsson.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/MG_8137-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/blog.familjenjonsson.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/MG_8137.jpg 667w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1712\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The throttle body assembly, without airbox and fuel rail, test fitted onto the engine. Thankfully everything fit perfectly.<\/p><\/div>\n<div id=\"attachment_1713\" style=\"width: 600px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.familjenjonsson.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/MG_8140.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-1713\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1713\" class=\"size-medium-size wp-image-1713\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.familjenjonsson.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/MG_8140-590x600.jpg\" alt=\"Closeup of the throttle bodies for the rear cylinders.\" width=\"590\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.familjenjonsson.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/MG_8140-590x600.jpg 590w, https:\/\/blog.familjenjonsson.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/MG_8140-147x150.jpg 147w, https:\/\/blog.familjenjonsson.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/MG_8140-295x300.jpg 295w, https:\/\/blog.familjenjonsson.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/MG_8140-768x781.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blog.familjenjonsson.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/MG_8140.jpg 983w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 590px) 100vw, 590px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1713\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Closeup of the throttle bodies for the rear cylinders.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Thankfully it all fit. The four throttle bodies slid into the intakes a lot easier than the carbs did, which isn&#8217;t surprising since the &#8220;barbs&#8221; are much smaller now. The tightest spot by far is the throttle position sensor.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1711\" style=\"width: 597px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.familjenjonsson.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/MG_8141.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-1711\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1711\" class=\"size-medium-size wp-image-1711\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.familjenjonsson.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/MG_8141-587x600.jpg\" alt=\"There's about a mm between the throttle position sensor cover and the frame. I had paid close attention to whether this would fit and concluded that it would, but I'm not sure I realized it would be that clos.\" width=\"587\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.familjenjonsson.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/MG_8141-587x600.jpg 587w, https:\/\/blog.familjenjonsson.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/MG_8141-147x150.jpg 147w, https:\/\/blog.familjenjonsson.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/MG_8141-294x300.jpg 294w, https:\/\/blog.familjenjonsson.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/MG_8141-768x784.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blog.familjenjonsson.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/MG_8141.jpg 979w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 587px) 100vw, 587px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1711\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">There&#8217;s about a mm between the throttle position sensor cover and the frame. I had paid close attention to whether this would fit and concluded that it would, but I&#8217;m not sure I realized it would be that close.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>The position of the throttle cable attachment also looks like it will work unmodified. It&#8217;s a bit lower than it is on the carbs (because the throttle butterflies turn the opposite way) but I could hook it in to the existing cable and move the handle and have it work. I think the handle travel to full throttle will end up being a bit less than with the carbs.<\/p>\n<p>After further mounting the fuel rails and the airbox, I could verify that there&#8217;s also no interference between the other tight spots: the connector fuel hose on the #1 cylinder and the manifold pressure port on the fuel pressure regulator are close to the inside of the fuel tank, but not touching. The fuel supply hose at the #4 cylinder clears the frame crossmember in front of it and loops under the cylinders.<\/p>\n<p>With the whole throttle body assembly mounted, I could proceed to wire up the fuel injectors. These are supplied with +12V from the fuse box and are grounded by the Microsquirt injector outputs. Since there are only two outputs, the front and back cylinder injector pairs are wired to the same outputs.<\/p>\n<p>That was a fairly minor wiring job and after that was done, it was theoretically possible to start the bike. There are no throttle linkages, of course, so all the throttle butterflies are closed and it would only pull air through the small ports on top of each of the throttle bodies, but this should be sufficient to get it to idle.<\/p>\n<p>With the fuel pump pulling out of the gas can like it did for the fuel injector measurements, I fired up TunerStudio, connected to the Microsquirt, and hit the starter.<\/p>\n<p>Ignition!<\/p>\n<p>It fired almost immediately and settled into a very high idle. It&#8217;s clearly getting too much air through those little air ports to have a reasonable idle that way.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s a video of this momentous occasion:<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"730\" height=\"411\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/AQqwx2qP6iY?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>So there we go, there&#8217;s hope!<\/p>\n<p>There are a few options for the idle. One is to use the carb method and crack the throttle valves a tiny bit. That&#8217;ll work, but it&#8217;s very sensitive. Another option is to connect all four of the air inlet ports and use some sort of restriction (ideally adjustable) to set the idle speed. The third, and most advanced and flexible, is to use an electrically actuated valve to set the idle speed. With this option you can program the Microsquirt to do things like raise the idle when cold, so it won&#8217;t stall under those conditions. This would be useful, but that would also require fitting more hardware under the engine.\u00a0I&#8217;ll ponder this while I work on the fuel plumbing.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>With the intake rubber fitment problem overcome, I could finally mount the entire throttle body assembly onto the bike. This was a moment long coming. Thankfully it all fit. The four throttle bodies slid into the intakes a lot easier than the carbs did, which isn&#8217;t surprising since the &#8220;barbs&#8221; are much smaller now. The &#8230;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.familjenjonsson.org\/blog\/2016\/05\/06\/microsquirting-the-nc30-part-23-we-have-ignition\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading &lsquo;Microsquirting the NC30, part #23: We have ignition&rsquo; &raquo;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"inline_featured_image":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[4,29],"tags":[13,15],"class_list":["post-1709","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-motorcycle","category-nc30","tag-motorcycles","tag-nc30"],"post_mailing_queue_ids":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.familjenjonsson.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1709","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.familjenjonsson.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.familjenjonsson.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.familjenjonsson.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.familjenjonsson.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1709"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/blog.familjenjonsson.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1709\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1716,"href":"https:\/\/blog.familjenjonsson.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1709\/revisions\/1716"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.familjenjonsson.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1709"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.familjenjonsson.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1709"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.familjenjonsson.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1709"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}